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the "fiscal cliff." >> when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold congress listens. >> how the president is turning up the heat for a deal with lawmakers. >> gusty winds this morning 41 miles per hour in san francisco 35 miles per hour in oakland. next when the heavy rain will arrive and when it's going to move out. >> and a chemical flame retardant too toxic for kids' clothes. how children and adults are still being exposed in their own homes. ,, ,,,,,, fiscal cliff. but in washington today, signs of e movement amo >>> just over a month the country to go over the "fiscal cliff" but in washington today signs of some movement among lawmakers. cbs reporter danielle nottingham on how the president is holding their feet to the fire. >>> reporter: president obama is enlisting middle class americans to pressure congress to back away from the "fiscal cliff." >> when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold congress listens. >> reporter: he will take his case on the road friday and is asking the public to join a twitter campaign calling on lawmakers to renew tax cuts
over the fiscal cliff, instead congress and the white house, this one happening on twitter. melissa: dennis kneale is covering the story with the latest. i love this one. >> the obama administration renowned for the use of social networks but this time maybe it outdid itself. the president urging americans to tweet their support for using the hash tag mo farah, as in my $2000, raised taxes on somebody else. now my2k has become a way to trash obama and cheering at the democrats. they been acquired sponsorship rights for my2k, they often see paid messages opposing the obama tax hikes. they run the gamut. some talk about the sudden switch to now playing up keeping tax cuts for everyone else. others make fun of my2k origins. a few samples. obama irony, same people who claimed bush tax cuts are only for the rich now argue to keep them because they help the poor. and there is this one. my2k should really be somebody else's two k. they can government not to take their money and say take it from someone else. and then there is this one, y2k was caught by programmers failing to limit code 24
cliff, 34 days left for congress to make a deal, which will prevent taxes from rising on everyone. including the middle class. and all day, americans around the country were sending a message, telling washington to get to work and get a job done. here's abc's senior white house correspondent jake tapper with the story. >> reporter: president obama today continued his public relations push, surrounding himself with supporters who wrote the white house, saying they do not want to see a tax increase on the middle class. it's all part of a move to rachet up pressure on republicans in congress to reach a deal before the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff, which would increase taxes for the average family by $2,200. >> that means less money for buying groceries, less money for filling prescriptions, less money for buying diapers. it means a tougher choice between paying the rent and paying tuition. >> reporter: but house republicans will not relent on their opposition to any plan that would raise taxes on the wealthy. >> you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rate
tryinging to kick start fiscal cliff talks. just 33 days. congress breaks for the holidays in 15 days. >> treasury secretary tim geithner is going to try to get the talks moving today. he'll meet with congressional leaders on capitol hill. let's go to dan lothian live in washington for us. dan, tell us should americans be hopeful something will be done in 15 days? that's before congress goes on vacation. >> let's remind a little bit. it was a week ago when president obama met with congressional leaders before he went overseas. there was a sense of optimism that they could get something done. now it appear it is two sides are still very far apart. so that's why you see the president pushing this tax extension for middle class americans. the president believing this is not necessarily the answer, the comprehensive answer. it's part of the solution. he's been meeting with small business owners at the white house. with big-time ceos as well. yesterday had middle class americans who expressed how they would be impacted by taxes going up to the tune of $2200 if the middle class tax extensio
quickly face the challenge of his second term, avoiding this fiscal cliff. in august of 2011 congress passed the budget control act which threatened automatic spending cuts if congress failed to come up with a planned deficit reduction by 2013. these cuts are what we refer to as sequestration. this would mean an across the board cut of between 7% and 10% of all defense and non-defense federal spending irrespective of policy or its impact on everyday people. these cuts would be absolutely devastating to our national and local economies. our -- show that sequestration will reduce federal funding direct to san francisco by at least 26.5 million dollars a year, every single year. we would see over $5 million of cut to education, and almost $3 million of cuts from public housing. san francisco's allocation of medicare would be cut by $2 million. funding for the wic workforce program would lose almost $5 million. there would be a $1 million cut to housing services for people with hiv and aids and more than $1 million cut to the community development block grant program. ladies and gentlemen
saying he's confident the obama administration can reach a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. but speaking with reporters in bangkok, he says the automaker is prepared for any outcome. cnbc has learned the completion of the so-called volcker rule is being delayed until the end of the first quarter of next year instead of the end of this year. the rule which is named for paul volcker bans banks from proprietary trading. but it's proven difficult for u.s. regulators to define and high volume of feedback has led to push back, repeated push back, of that deadline. mervyn king will release financial stability report today. there's been speculation in the report that king will raise capital requirements for banks and introduce new banking regulations. for our uk viewers, we'll bring you live coverage of the bank of england's report in just over an hour. for thousannow, chris wheeler j. what is your sense of what he could say? >> if we look at the uk banks, perhaps lloyd and those that have the biggest issues despite all the work, i think they're on a glide path to get to where they
the fiscal cliff which he says congress and the president must address. he says because we're at the zero balance, interest rates were zero, the effect of the fiscal cliff is getting much worse than if the fed were not at zero. >> because they could do something. >> the only positive thing which dudley did not talk about but it is something that's on the radar is that, as the fiscal cliff fears rise, interest rates fall on the 10-year. so the effect the fed would have from easing is already in -- already happening as a market reaction. >> steve, thank you. >>> when jeff kilburg is not fired up about the irish he is fired up about what mr. dudley said today. why? >> absolutely. he came out with very dovish comments. he lass a permanent vote and he is quite the confidant of ben bernanke. so he flat-out gave a wink-wink, there's something big coming in less than two weeks. >> he's been a dove for a long time though. no change but just to hear it articulated gives you some sense of -- >> it does. this could be a one-two punch. if the fomc comes out with additional measures, subsequent week la
on the so-called fiscal cliff, and with congress and the president probably waiting till the last minute, we now have basketball thursdays here on "the cycle." score! a tip of the jersey to hall of fame coach steve smith of north carolina. with all the talk and posturing going on, mr. director, do you have our fancy animation on this? he says it's not ready yet. >> why not? >> we'll go back to our preseason graphic. we're calling this, depending on how we feel that day, either the fiscal cliff. boo. the fiscal slope. hmm. the fiscal fiesta, my personal favorite. or the fiscal follies. this is from the boston celtics' game last night. celtic big man kevin garnett was fouled by brooklyn net kris i was married to a kardashian for five minutes humphries. boston guard rajon rondo didn't like it. both humphries and rondo were kicked out with another net, gerald wallace. i hope the negotiations on the fiscal whatever we call it don't end up like that. are you listening, mr. boehner. >> this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult lead
continues to encourage us to dive over the fiscal cliff and this is after congress mega congressman go halfraulgrijalva, thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. i'm--i was astounded by the credit that i was given to me by the people that were questioning me on c nbc, but you know, i'm glad that they saved the market the next day. >> eliot: i'm glad to meet the person who can control the market unilaterally, and i'll call to see which way you're going to move the market on any given day. >> one of my friends in congress asked me, the next time you make those comments, call me ahead of time so i can sell early. >> eliot: one of the best ways to make money. putting that all aside there seems to be some vast effort to create this almost hysteria that if we don't fix this issue right now, the economy will go into a cataclysm, and it seems to me that we're not talking about the issues that we should be talking about. the issues you want to talk about, citizen job creation. >> hysteria is a great word. the drum beat is over and over again. today's ceos were visiting the administrati
. now, you talk about a fiscal cliff now? think about the cliff that members of congress are going to face because we didn't do our job in addressing this issue when the solutions were there in a relatively clear glide path that would be relatively unnoticed in most households. this is what will happen: there would be a 25% automatic cut to the retirement payments and the disability payments now going out in social security. that would be an average of $308 per month. now, the social security trustees put it straight out there. they said, they have two ideas to shore up social security right now. one is to immediately and permanently increase the combined payroll tax on employees and employers from 12.4% to 15%. so that would be a one-fifth increase in the payroll taxes that are in the norm being paid today. the other alternative they suggested is to cut core benefits right now. $200 per month they said would do it. $200 per month cuts in social security checks. i don't believe anybody believes that is feasible or desirable, either of those options. soy, whaso what can we do? we ca
middle class americans to pressure congress to back away from the "fiscal cliff." >> when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold congress listens. >> reporter: he will take his case on the road friday and is asking the public to join a twitter campaign calling on lawmakers to renew tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year without delay. >> he is campaigning for his position. i get it. we understand it. but at the end of the day he has to lead on this issue. >> reporter: while congressional leaders meet behind closed doors, some of the biggest names in corporate america are here on capitol hill meeting with lawmakers pushing for solutions. former tennessee governor phil bredesen told lawmakers everything needs to be on the table. >> i think there's a broad recognition it has to be both revenue and serious work on entitlements to make it happen. >> reporter: taxes are still the main sticking point. while president obama wants tax cuts to expire for the wealthiest americans, most republicans don't. behind closed doors wednesday, oklahoma's tom cole told his g
up. ♪ the president and congress remain far apart on how to resolve the fiscal cliff. we are looking at what may be a federal government disaster. guess what, the governments are in no better shape. that's tonight's "chalk talk." triple digit gains on wall street today. the dow jones industrial rally after the speaker of the house speaks. will a drawn-out fiscal clip negotiation change in the streets direction? wall street veteran and bedford of adviser ceo joins us next. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes report these signs and sptoms to youdoctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or bast cancer.
are with a looming fiscal cliff and yet congress has allow nod issue to fester longer than immigration. whether one is on the left or the right or the middle, i'm sure my colleague from florida would agree that whatever we're doing now in immigration is not working very well. we have over 10 million people here illegally. there's rampant violation of the law. there is lackluster enforcement, families are torn apart, and what's before us regardless of the merits which we'll get into in a moment, clearly does not address the problems in our immigration system. whether this bill becomes law or not, our immigration system will continue to have problems or will continue to be over 10 million people here in violation of the law, many working illegally. in some cases taking jobs away from american citizens. so instead of a solution, we have a bill before us that asks taos weigh two goals of our immigration policy, in many ways against one another. now, there might very well be room for a noncontroversial immigration bill that catches up and includes some of the less controversial provisions including a st
does not take action to stop them. going over the fiscal cliff could trigger a recession, some say. >>> mitt romney was at the white house earlier today for a lunch meeting with president obama. his invitation keeps the promise he made when he declared victory on election night to talk with the gop candidate about areas where they have common interests. the two were to talk over lunch in the white house private dining room. the president's press secretary said the president didn't have any particular agenda, and it was closed to the media. >>> out of service. we were hear when police tested this emergency phone. we'll show you what happened and tell you why this phone is just part of a larger problem. >>> more specifics on when the next storm arrives in your neighborhood and how much rain it will bring. >>> as the dump truck continued forward, it hit nine other vehicles, so 11 vehicles totaled. >> a truck crashed in the east bay. the simple explanation for what caused it. >>> an unusual accident involving a big rig. the truck driver said he had a sneezing fit while behind the wheel
to spearhead the negotiations with congress over these fiscal cliff negotiations. we had had a brief shot of him arriving this morning as he was coming into the capitol. he's being joined by rob neighbors, the white house liaison to congress. he's a man that has long standing relationships with folks on capitol hill. series of meetings, all individual meetings, senator reid, told by my colleagues he's in a meeting with house speaker john boehner and mitch mcconnell, top republican in the senate, as well as nancy pelosi, the top democrat in the house. now coming out of the meeting with senator reid, i'm not getting much at the moment from sources but one democratic aide tells me the following. he says that we -- this aide told me, we're all on the same page today. it's more about republicans. that goes without saying, because these negotiations really were focusing on the negotiations between the white house and speaker boehner, even before the meeting, which the treasury secretary and speaker boehner, a spokesman gave us this following statement, ashleigh. i want to read to you. he says,
with congress on spending cut and other fiscal cliff details. the first meeting will be tomorrow on the hill. >> pelley: major, president said today he thought all this could be done by christmas. why does he think so? >> reporter: because that is the big takeaway, scott, from the president's conversation on saturday with house speaker john boehner. the two agreed it was in foeryone's best interest to get a fiscal cliff deal sooner rather than later, both agreed to aim for one before christmas, but they also acknowledged, scott, it will be very difficult to achieve that. >> pelley: thank you, major. will the president's team find a receptive republican congress? nancy cordes is on capitol hill for us tonight. nancy. >> reporter: well, scott, one top republican aide actually told me today that he sees these talks as one-sided, that republicans have been making all the proposals, and speaker boehner said he's still waiting for a balanced offer from the white house. >> republicans are willing to att revenue on the table but it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spen
. when it comes to the fiscal cliff, the president and congress will either fail together or we will succeed together. there is nothing in between. i am confident that we can pass the test and do what is good and right for the american people. >> the president has been talking a lot about taxes lately, and as acpa who practiced for years and a member of ways and means committee, there is no one who likes to talk about tax more than i do. but let's be honest -- talking about taxes is not going to solve the problem that america faces. we have to turn to the spending side of the ledger. furthermore, his tax proposal will kill about 700,000 jobs and do harm to the economy, again, the wrong direction. i think house republicans have set a fine president -- we passed a framework to address the issue of taxes. fundamental, comprehensive tax reform. pro-growth policies that kickstart the economy rather than hurting the economy. likewise, we have laid out a bipartisan plan to address the drivers of our debt in the spending programs. i think house republicans are eager to work and negotiat
. >> they seem to be saying right things. complaints now coming out of congress about talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> staggering damage tally in new jersey from storm owr storm sandy. >>> and good evening, once again. 34 days now until the so called fiscal cliff occurs. taxes will go upgv[; $2200 come january 1 ask both parties say they're open to compromise. the president says social media gets the message across. >> members of congress, write ask e mail. posted on the facebook walls. you can tweet it. using hash tag my 2 k. not y 2 k. my 2 k. >> one of the small business owners yesterday is the co-founder of oakland organic mushroom company called back to the roots. >> in washington, d.c. there is going to be-to-have to be things that are cut to provide stories for them to take back as proof. why this is important for small businesses to be the last things cut. they're the fabric of the country and economy. so want to stress that to them. how important this has been for us and others too. >> he admits the small business benefited from incentive programs. now they have 31 employees. >> ne
today to persuade president obama and congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. with just 33 days left to nail down a deal, c.e.o.s made the rounds to explain to lawmakers that because of cliff gridlock, they're holding back on hiring and spending. as darren gersh reports, c.e.o.s weren't the only ones campaigning hard today. >> reporter: the president and republicans focused today on staging events designed to pressure the other side. the president called on americans to tweet, facebook and call members of congress to tell them to pass tax cuts for everyone making less that $250,000 a year. >> 97% of small businesses would not see their income tax go up by a single dime. even the wealthiest americans would still get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> reporter: the speaker dismissed a call from a fellow republican to give the president what he wants, saying it's not good economics to raise tax rates on small businesses. >> going over the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and hurt job creation in our country. this is not good for our country. it's as simple as that, and the pr
there to think congress will be able to come to some sort of resolution. congress designed the fiscal cliff. i think probably senator thune from south dakota is making the most sense last night saying maybe we should kick the can down the road for six months instead of trying to rush it i'm not a fan of kicking the can down the road, that's what congress does. in this case, you have everyone scrambling, trying to examine the ramifications of the election. you have new people coming in. some of the people voting were thrown out of congress. why not wait until the 1st of the year. >> kicking the can, you look at markets today. you have global markets up. stock futures are up. the stock market was up yesterday because this whole idea of optimism from john boehner and the president that this could get done by the end of the year is something the world wants to see. you look at our polling. our polling shows, and the most recent poll from abc news/"washington post," 60% of people support raising tacks on incomes over $250,000 per year. isn't the argument of kicking the can down the road losing some
up. ♪ the president and congress remain f apart on how to resolve the fiscal cliff. we are looking at what may be a federal government disaster. guess what, the governments are in no better shape. that's tonight's "chalk talk." triple digit gains on wall street today. the dow jones industrial rally after the speaker of the house speaks. will a drawn-out fiscal clip negotiation chan in the streets direction? wall street veteran and bedford of adviser ceo joins us next. before copd... took my son fishing every year. we had a great spot, not easy to find, but worth it. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps significantly improve my lung function starting within five minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing better. and that means...fish on! symbicort is for copd including chronic bnchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. symbirt may increase your risk of lung infections, osteoporosis, d some eye problems. tell
him in pressuring congress to get something done, to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff. >> it'll be interesting to see whether any of the republicans take any wisdom from the example of thaddeus stevens and his willingness to compromise some of his more radical positions in order to get the 13th amendment passed. >> one can only hope. >> we're going to be watching for you, you're co-hosting "the sick cycle" at 3:00. >> kornacki, get well quick. >>> that does it for us. for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." >>> coming up in our next hour, we have the very latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations including new reaction from speaker boehner and senate majority leader reid after their meetings with secretary geithner on capitol hill today. >>> plus, a live report from the white house on president obama and mitt romney's lunch meeting in the private residence. >>> we are following developing news. former president george h.w. bush has been hospitalized. we'll update you on his condition. >>> plus, we are just now an hour away from an historic u.n. vote on the palestinian's
entitlement reform be part of the fiscal talks, and my two crepts more on what members of congress focus on rather than the fiscal cliff. here's a clue. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scttrader streaming quotes. it's another reaso more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. ♪ gerri: president obama's says he is confident a deal on the fiscal cliff can be reached b christmas. both sides seem so far off. even among senate democrats, there are deep divisns over whether to include cuts to medicare or medicaid. intel not reform, should it be part of the fiscal cliff talks? here is what some of you are tweeting me. if there is not entitlement reform and we are not backing away from the cliff, we are really doing the tango dane along theedge. randy
, president obama says he hopes to have a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff by christmas. invest fors apparently shared his optimism and stocks closed higher. congress must reach a compromise on the deficit reduction plan by the end of the year. otherwise, tax hikes will automatically kick in. >>> talk about a power lunch. president obama and mitt romney, who will dine at the white house together tomorrow afternoon. this will be the first time they have met since their final debate. the meeting will be private. no aids and no media. >>> armed with guns and sledgehammers, the daring bay area jewelry heist that took 75 seconds to pull off. >>> well, that and $7 will get you a cup of coffee. what's so special about starbucks' new brew? >>> a $580 million jackpot is up for grabs tonight. now california wants in on the action. how soon until you can play powerball? ,, sledgehammers, hit a bay ara jewelry store. it happened in los gatos. c5 reporter kiet >>> they were in and out in a flash. two thieves waving guns and sledgehammers hit a bay area jewelry store. it happened in los gatos. kiet do shows
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ground on the fiscal cliff? oklahoma's tom cole, a member of congress says the grand old party should take president obama's view, extend bush tax cuts for all but the top 2%. that's a sign some republicans may be open to higher rates for the rich. >>> is it possible negotiators could learn something from the most important movie out there right now "lincoln." doris kearns goodwin joins us. >>> let me finish with how lincoln outlawed slavery for good and how he did it using politics. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> how's this for irony? mitt romney has finally captured 47% of america. remember this video that sunk the romney campaign? >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. >> well, the cook report points out romney shared a popular vote of this country has fallen to, you guessed it, 47.4%. as expected to fall further, and settle at the 47 mark, exactly. we'll be right back. [ wom
in congress hinted they were optimistic about a deal over the so-called fiscal cliff. the euro is edging higher against the yen and that's changing hands at 106.24-26. let's take a look at stocks now. tokyo share prices are edging higher as concerns about the u.s. economy are receding. the nikkei average at 9371, a gain of .7% from wednesday's close. export-related issues, including automakers, are leading the market advance. and taking a look at other markets open in the asia-pacific, we're seeing south korea's kospi trading higher by .9%, 1929. and in australia, the benchmark index is trading higher by .4%, 4465. we'll see where china takes us in the next hour. >>> countries around the world are accelerating moves to solidify trade relations. among them, japan and the european union are seeking an economic partnership. but france's trade minister says yeahn pa will have to meet certain conditions before that happens. eu trade ministers will begin discussions on thursday on whether to approve the start of negotiations with japan for an economic partnership agreement. japan would have to
of progress in congre's fiscal cliff negotiations. yeah, i will believe it when i see it. after tumbling in early trading the dow rebounded more than 200 points, closing up 10 points. see what happens when congress stops screwing things up? i don't know. we'll see. >>> disney joining a wave of companies increasing their annual stock dividend. the company will raise the stock cash payout by 25% to 75 cents a share. disney is trading up slightly of a hours on the news. >>> shares of costco leaped more than 6%. the company beat expectations for november same-store sales and announced it will pay out a special stock dividend, $7 per share. >>> now to our top story night t could be a total game-changer for pensions and municipal creditors. thenation's biggest public employee pension fund, calpers, is preparing to sue the bankrupt city of san bernardino, california, since that city stopped making payments to the pension fund. calpers says the city already owes the fund almost $7 million since filing for bankruptcy in august, on august 1st. now this is a first. i got to tell you. no city has ev
reduction plan talk about the fiscal cliff and choices facing congress. both alan simpson and erskine bowles have emphasized the need for revenue increases and entitlement reform. they have urged congress to reach a compromise. this is hosted by the "christian science monitor." >> here we go. our guests this morning are erskine bowles and senator alan simpson, co-chairmen of the national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform and co-founders of the campaign to fix the debt, or as the "new york times" called them this morning, the debt duo. their last joint appearance with us was in november of 2010. let me thank them both for coming back. we are all trying to fix the nation's fiscal woes. erskine bowles is president emeritus of the university of north carolina. he also had a career in investment banking and venture capital. he came to washington in 1993 service director of the small business administration and was later named chief of staff to president clinton. alan simpson followed his father's footsteps into politics -- a u.s. senator. a law degree from the university of wyoming -
of california. >>> president obama employed a little, in the results of the fiscal cliff. the president surrounded himself with people who he said were middle class americans. if congress does nothing, a series of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes will take in effect in january. the president want to raise income taxes on those who make more than $250,000 a year. republicans don't want to do it and reduce spending cuts. >>> president urges americans to use social media, especially twitter. they introduced the hash tag, my 2k, including my $2 k. how much more each middle class family would pay without congressional action. >> my 2k and e-mail, post office, member of the congress, do what it takes to communicate a sense of urgency. >> republicans are embracing the my 2k hash tag. they are using it to make points against the president's plan. >>> the police standoff is enteringit fifth hour after an animal control officer was shot and killed, helping to evict a man from the northern california home this afternoon. it's happening in the city, 20 miles south of sacramento. reporter mel l
. whenever you hear members of congress talk about any kind of fiscal cliff deal you have to approach it with a sort of believe everything and believe nothing attitude. i think that everybody wants to avoid having taxes go up for all americans as of january 1st but everybody has a price for that. and it, to me, it's about whether or not both sides are looking for a win-win deal, meaning, my opponent wins and i win. or whether both sides or one of the sides are looking for a deal where only i win and you lose and on top of all of that then we have to look at what do they want to include in any sort of deal? are we going to address entitlement reform? are we going to cut spending? are we only trying to deal with the tax cut issue? will we try to address the debt ceiling issue? so there are a lot of moving parts here. jon: it seems the campaign promise of the president to raise taxes on couples making over $250,000 a year, it seems like that almost has to come true in some form for the president and the democrats to swallow a deal? >> i think so. i think the president has been committed
of a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff by christmas. president obama says he would like congress to pass a bill even sooner to extend tax cuts for the middle class families. and he invited some of those middle class americans to the white house today to help make his case. >> i have got a pen. [ laughter ] i'm ready to sign it. [ applause ] so, my point here today is is to say let's approach this problem with the middle class in mind. the folks who are behind me and the millions of people all across the country who they represent. >> shepard: well, republicans are saying they need some spending cuts. that they will also have to be part of the deal. and they are accusing the president of campaigning instead of negotiating. >> i mean, every week he spends campaigning for his ideas is a week that we are not solving the problem. it's completely counter productive. the election is over. he won. congratulations. and we have got a hard deadline here, however, and it's still he he is still out on the campaign trail, kind of celebrating. >> shepard: if the president and congress cannot cu
here. it's more than just sort that he has the ability to go over the fiscal cliff, allow sort of the 113th congress to convene. that congress will certainly continue to have a republican majority but also a greater influence of the democratic party, and a lesser influence of the tea party coalition within the republican party, and once that 113th convenes the president can institute obama tax cuts, and sort of dare the republican party not to vote for, you know, a new round of obama tax cuts. politically the president holds those but it's more important than that. the american people, after looking at options presented to them reclearly with a return of president obama to the white house, or initiating mitt romney presidency, chose a return of president obama to the white house and therefore gave him a very clear mandate to hold the line on the question of entitlements there when it comes to talking about entitlements, or earned benefits as progressives like to refer to it, what is the way that the president and those on the left can look and also appear to the right to be wil
if congress recesses without a bridge to get us over the fiscal cliff the market will go down precipitously perhaps 1000 points and it will be the markets way to say let's come back, you made the mistake like they did four years ago. tracy: the market dropped 1000 points or what have you, get in? >> to be a generational buying opportunity. this is based on congressional ineptitude. the fact is the economy has a tail wind, the market is fundamentally attracted, the valuations are reasonable. you have earnings growth. if we can bridge the fiscal cliff and get a comprehensive tax reform and entitlement reform, you would see a market significantly higher. tracy: we have had some earnings that look positively dismal. it is a very big pricey discretionary product, but they miss earnings, that is a real fundamental, isn't it? speak we still have the s&p profit growth that is positive. you cannot continue to have double-digit earnings growth as he diyou did for 10 consecutive quarters. if we get through this cliff in the back half of 13, gdp growth rate accelerates as we anticipate and profit growt
cut with the fiscal cliff? guest: it is expiring. host: by law. guest: if congress does nothing, it will go back to 6.2%. both sides had agreed that its usefulness had run its course and that they should probably let it expire. opponents are worried that by taking money out of a dedicated stream is going to social security could undermine the integrity of the program. eary of it.ere war that started to change. larry summers said he thought we should keep the payroll tax cut as a stimulus measure. chris van hollen made similar comments. it is a little bit influx as to what will happen. host: it was designed as a temporary cut to boost the economy. it increased take-home pay an average of $1,000 to $1800 per worker. here is a chart from "mondey' magazine. host: prio to december, 2010, that's what everybody was paying. has been proven this was stimulus toward the economy? asest: i didn't know it w proven. i think economists believe it does help boost the economy a little bit. host: we want to put the numbers on the screen if you like to participate in the discussion with the so-cal
political rhetoric from one end of pennsylvania avenue to the other, all over the so-called fiscal cliff. redeploying the campaign image, the president surrounded himself with what he called average middle class families, to ramp up the pressure on the republicans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> reporter: the president wants congress to extend the bush tax rates for everyone making less than $250,000 but wants taxes to go up for everybody else, and will take the message to pennsylvania avenue on friday. not to be outdone on the pr front the house republicans hosted a group of nervous business leaders, who are pushing serious spending cuts to supplement expected tax hikes. >> i am hopeful, but wouldn't put me down anywhere near the optimistic category. we have a long way to go, very few days to get it done. >> reporter: in the first republican break inside the house, the oklahoma congressman tom cole endorsed the short-term approach. >> in my view, we all agree we won't raise the taxes on peop
americans, president obama says that he's optimistic about avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff, while at the same time pressuring law makers to get it done. >> i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell congress what a -- >> reporter: extra $2,000 in taxes next year if congress can't reach a deal by december 31st. republicans and democrats are at odds over taxes and entitlements, on taxes, the president wants them raised over $250,000. and the republicans disagree and instead want to cap them at 50,000. >> we're willing to put revenues on the table, as long as we're not raising the rates. >> reporter: balking at cuts to medicare, medicaid. and. >> we have already agreed to a trillion and a half dollars in cuts. in this session of congress. >> reporter: also on the hill today with one laugh of the bipartisan team that offered a deficit reduction plan in 2010. >> i'm hopeful but don't put me down anywhere near in optimistic category. >> reporter: >> every week, he spends campaigning for his ideas is a week that we're not solving the problem. it's complete
on the fiscal cliff negotiations. dave: peter barnes has been on tim geithner's trail all day long and joins us from capitol hill. we had little snippets of moon news that move to the markets. peter: treasury secretary left capitol hill here with republicans angry. we got a statement out of senator mitch mcconnell, senate republican leader after his meeting with tim geithner and he said, quote, they took a step backwards. according to a senate leadership republican leadership source secretary tim geithner came to the meeting basically read proposing the president's demand for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue from wealthier americans. john boehner also met with secretary and 8 this morning and he was not happy either. take a listen. >> despite claims that the president supports a balanced approach, democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two months. >> is a tactic. it is a tactic. but the facts are these. the american people expect and deserve us to honor our responsibility
if congress refuses to ask. we go over the fiscal cliff rates reset under bill clinton and you're negotiating a tax cut not a tax increase. other thing the way weight of public opinion since that level has moved strongly against republicans. look who the public says they're going to blame if we go over the cliff, it's republicans because they see them as having forced the issue last time around, been willing to do this this time around. one reason boehner is grumbly and nervous because he doesn't have any leverage. >> i want to point this out. this is interesting in terms of the smoke and mirrors how this will play out for the republicans. in the "wall street journal" they write obama's flexible on highest tax rates. white house's flexibility, described by bowls, confirmed by the administration officials, could envision tax rates -- tax rate increase from the current level but was less than clinton era levels. if the republicans can say, we cut taxes from where they were under clinton it gives them cover though rates may go up. a weird, if there is an act of kabuki theater that would be it, r
if congress cannot make a deal on the fiscal cliff. >>> we're going to start with the cme group. rick santelli, the santelli exchange. i'm told a little poetry. i just hope it's not frost saying some say the world will end in fire, some saying ice. >> it's not going to be fire and ice. it is going to be some fire and brimstone! how's that? you know, i liked warren buffett's op-ed the other day in the "time"s. a minimum tax for the wealthy. we're going to get to a couple quotes in that in a minute. the beginning promi inning prem issue with. warren buffett lays out a notion once again how crazy grover norquist is because taxation doesn't really affect financial behavior. we could argue about that to the extent of degrees. but i would say two things. first of all, on grover norquist, you know, if you get married in front of a minister, priest or rabbi and you say your oath, and then a year later you don't like your wife anymore, do you go find that priest, minister or rabbi and beat them up and say, listen, get me out of this pledge! no. you made the pledge. it isn't the rabbi, the minister or t
automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> the president had a busy fiscal cliff day, also met privately with the ceo ofs of home depot, coca-cola and yahoo!. not to be out done on this pr front, house republicans made it public, hosting a group of nervous business leaders. they've signed on to a campaign called fix the debt. they want big spending cuts to supplement the coming tax hikes. >> i'm hopeful but i wouldn't put me anywhere near the optimistic category. we have a long way to go and a few days to get it done. >> don't forget that's erskine bowels. republicans are trying to put pressure on democrats even as democrats enjoy the moment on taxes. here is where republicans are on entitlements. >> there's been no serious discussion by the white house on entitlements, on medicare and medicaid. this has to be a part of this agreement or else we just continue to dig the hole deep i. >> republicans are very frustrated that what's taking up oxygen right now is the issue of taxes. in fact, yesterday that's what happened. the first major public break inside the republican controlle
'll collect laterr. working on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. who pays the price if congress fails to act. is it a make or make term? reverend did you like the president's tone yesterday if the goal was to come to a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> i think his tone was appropriate because it is even and not an taganistic and fair and balanced in its aproachh and invitesorths to come to the table and indicates a willingness to have a give and take. that's what the american people expect. >> brian: when he said to go visit a manufacturing plant with tinker toys and have a twitter address and hash my 2 k to put pressure on republicans. is that a right tone to get something done? >> i think it is not the president versus republicans. i think the president want to stay close to the american people so that when he goes in the roomm he goes in as the winner of the last election where the majority of the americans made a choice and reminds americans that he has a authority to cut a deal. >> brian: if you find out a deal is cut and no entitlement reform would you think it was successful? >> no.
't push the country over a fiscal cliff we're likely headed for more economic growth. right? one of the best economic forecasters around says not only is the u.s. economy headed for a recession with or without the fiscal cliff, he says we're already in one. listen to what the person of the cycle research institute told me today. >> the recession has started. we are a few months in to it. and i think if you wanted to argue against me, i would point to jobs, jobs are still growing but looking at the last seven recessions in three of them, jobs continued to grow in to the recession. >> his group bases this on four economic indicators. let me show you. industrial production, that's all the stuff, top left, all the stuff made in the u.s. personal income, you know what that is, sales and employment. look at those lines. based on official government data this year they show a drop off in three of the four indicators starting in july. only employment is steady. that's july. that means we're in a recession right now. may sound obvious to some of you or ridiculous to others but when it com
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